Friday, October 7, 2011

Live Blogging #OWS - 10/7/11

2:43 AM:

As of 2:43 AM, 10/7/11, there are Occupy movements in 837 U.S. cities.

Approximately 10,000 protesters marched in Portland, Oregon.


Numerous arrest reported at #OccupySacramento.

#OccupyMontana group meets in Billings, Montana.

2:53 AM:

Nice piece by Kumar Ramanathan of The Tufts Daily, an independent student paper.

3:28 AM:

Blondie expressing solidarity:


4:11 PM: This video was recommended by @OccupyWallSt. Obviously, this is a leaderless movement and this is not an official statement. But this framing of the issues is consistent with a good deal of what I hear from many of the occupiers. It's almost two hours long, but interesting in its own right and, I think, useful if you're looking to understand the Occupy movement.


Lifting the Veil from S DN on Vimeo.

On a separate note, I'm definitely hearing a lot of concern about being co-opted from those actually occupying. MoveOn.org is probably the most common target, but also the Democratic Party. I imagine there is a concern regarding unions, but I haven't heard unions mentioned specifically. In fact, this is anectdotal and obviously the movement is broad, but my general sense is that most are pro-union and pro-military, but are leery of political parties and the party machine.

4:30 AM:

Photos from 10/6/11 Occupy Portland protest by Ben Latterell.

5:21 AM: Undoubtedly one of the greatest slogans of all time - even in German.

OccupyTogether Occupy Together
Auf Deutsch :) -"@DJHell: Wir sind die 99%! @OccupyFrankfurt @OccupyTogether #ff"

5:40 AM: Clueless TPM piece: Can #OWS be used by Dems?

6:49 AM: New Anonymous Video:



6:55 AM: Huffington Post piece expressing concern of being co-opted.

@OccupyWallSt reports that October 15 will be a huge day world wide.

7:08 AM: More deserved scorn for Wall Street watergirl Erin Burnett:



7:33 AM: Some of you may have heard a book mentioned on the Ed Show by an #OWS protester. And the book was specifically mentioned in the context of Americans needing to educate themselves regarding the consensus process. I wasn't able to make out the title and author. However, @NebraskaSower was able to track it down (and it took some persistence). Anyway, here is the recommended reading from the #OWS protester:

Consensus: A New Handbook for Grassroots Social, Political & Environmental Groups, by Peter Gelderloos

8:09 AM: (ht Binh) Alliance for Global Justice says it was sabotaged over support for Occupy Wall Street and anti-war occupation.

8:59: Reporting from Occupy DC.

kgosztola Kevin Gosztola
"The ceiling on our expectations has been lifted by these young occupiers." #oct6 #ows

9:05: David Atkins of Hullabaloo re: co-option (definitely the topic of the moment).

9:29: Richard Eskow - #OWS isn't talking to the 1%; it's talking to the 99%.

9:49: Adbusters' Kalle Lasn Talks About OccupyWallStreet.

10:58: Occupy goes global - protests planned for 10/15.

As of 10:58 AM MST, there are Occupy protests in 892 U.S. Cities.

11:21 AM: Occupy Sesame Street Gets Violent.

2:24 PM:

Nate Silver uses statistics to show what we've known - police brutality equals media coverage.

2:51 PM:

As of 2:52 PM (MST), there are Occupy protests in 921 U.S. cities.

3:23 PM:

Naomi Klein on why movement won't be co-opted:



7:14 PM: Occupation Cincinatti begins occupation tomorrow and expects to have more than 500 protesters.

8:19 PM: Missoula, Montana holds its first General Assembly tomorrow, 10:00AM, Caras Park.

8:50 PM: Truthdigger of the Week: Jesse LaGreca.

11:01: One of the original Tea Party groups - FedUpUSA - expresses solidarity with OWS on certain issues.

15 comments:

  1. Taryn:

    I just posted this at ThinkProgress, and it's really important. As I feared last week, the Tea Party is trying to co-opt the #OWS movement. I posted the differences between the two on my blog several days ago, and have been fighting them off like wack-a-mole zombies at the occupywallst.org website forum for days now. But it's now official:

    They're trying to co-opt #OWS in predictable borg-like, anti-democratic fashion:

    This was twittered this am by #OWS:

    THIS IS NOT OUR SITE AND IT REEKS OF EVIL: www.occupyparty.org #ows #astroturfing

    I was afraid of this--they're trying to conflate #OWS with TP idiocy.

    Please pass this on. I tried to begin to separate the two in my own post here:

    http://groobiecat.blogspot.com/2011/10/tea-party-vs-occupywallstreet-party.html

    Peace and power to the (real) people!

    Groobiecat

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  2. I definitely will - I saw the fact that fake twitter addresses and websites are popping up like mad as well.

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  3. The 1% will infiltrate. They will sabotage. I'm not sure how to handle it, but I think it's as certain as anything in the physical universe that the 1% don't want this movement and will act to destroy it. To paraphrase something I read a long time ago on Bartcop: Are there any limits to what would an evil person would do to gain or protect world domination and unimaginable wealth? Democracy? Freedom? Justice? Those are words to tranquilize us. All you have to do is look at what the US has done in South America since the 1950s (consistently, over and over) to know that the 1% do not give a fuck about the lives, liberty or happiness of any of the 99%.

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  4. Raenelle, agreed. I've been dealing with libertarian commenters at the Forum on #OWS's web site, and most are insane protectors of the 1%--in fact, I'd argue that most of the people who are against #OWS are actually in the 99%, they just mindlessly support policies that support the 1%. These are the people who repeat the endless Fox points of laissez faire conservatism.

    There's going to be a legitimate core of #OWS support from fed up libertarians, I think, but how to sort through those? It's like trying to parse a Sarah Palin speech, most of which is apocryphal bullshit, of course. Going to be a long occupation...

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  5. The thing that makes me nuts is that the #OWS movement is against the government--but its base is comprised of those with liberal viewpoints. Taryn, your excellent political and cultural analytical capabilities need to be applied to this increasingly complex situation (i.e., #OWS: it's not about left and right, it's about everyone together).

    But, well, 99% of the, er, 99% are lefties. At least. How to bridge that cognitive dissonance gap??

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  6. groobiecat, my thoughts at the moment are that we can't worry about it too much. First, there's not much we can do; second, what the movement is showing me is that, at the moment, it's beyond anyone's control and that's precisely its magic and power.

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  7. @grobiecat - I would say movement is anti-corporatist, more than anti-gov - criticism of gov is that gov is bought and paid for by corps. "We are the 99%" is a social/economic justice message and underlying the message is the idea that the 1% (corps., plutocrats) are the problems. Gov. is only the problem because it allowed this to happen and won't fix it because they're beholden.

    @Raenelle - I agree and so far I don't see the message being effected by these influences - what I see as a danger to what Naomi Klein refers to as fetishizing lack of structure (her recent piece is MUST read):

    http://plutocracyfiles.blogspot.com/2011/10/naomi-klein-occupywallstreet-is-most.html

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  8. I have a problem with this line of thought, "hearing a lot of concern about being co-opted from those actually occupying. MoveOn.org is probably the most common target, but also the Democratic Party. I imagine there is a concern regarding unions, but I haven't heard unions mentioned specifically. In fact, this is anectdotal and obviously the movement is broad, but my general sense is that most are pro-union and pro-military, but are leery of political parties and the party machine."

    You cannot have 99% without including the parties, the unions, and the Tea Party for that matter.

    If you MEAN it, if you MEAN 99% then you have to build bridges and coalitions, not act and react in fear to your bretheren that you have disagreements with (very real disagreements with, such as racism and homophobia w/ Tea Party for one example).

    Do not make "the 99%" into a useless and meaningless slogan. You have to live it and you have to mean it.

    BTW nice blog I like it. thx.

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  9. @HelenNPN - I agree with 99% = 99%. I just meant to say that I'd heard specific concerns re: co-option. However, I want to be very clear that this is not the position of the movement as a whole. These are just individual voices.

    Also, even for those concerned, they would never say those people aren't included - just that they have to come on the movement's terms or not at all. There was an article in the Huffington Post about this - here.

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  10. Oops - forgot link:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/06/occupy-wall-street_n_999048.html

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  11. Yes Taryn my comment wasn't directed specifically at you, I know you are the messenger. And because you are the messenger I had to give you my message too!

    Keep up the good work. Also check the link in your response comment, not working I don't think.

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  12. All thoughts appreciated. :) And I'm glad you're enjoying the blog. The link in above at 6:55 AM. Hope to hear more from you.

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  13. You know, for the sake of the debate, here's my two cent re: Dem Party and MoveOn.org.

    MoveOn built a substantial part of its base with anti-war folk. MoveOn threw its weight behind Obama. Even though the wars haven't ended, MoveOn has remained as very much an organization dedicated to electing Dems. So, I think many see MoveOn as an arm of D Party and, obviously, they feel the D Party has completely sold the 99% out.

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  14. That new anonymous video gave me goose-bumps. It kind of goes to what we're talking about in this thread, or a bit of it does. Yes, they'll try to subvert us, but they really don't understand what they are dealing with. The tools available to spread information, and a generation who uses those tools all the time--inconceivable potential.

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  15. Raenelle/Taryn, good points all. I guess my struggle is that yes, government is corrupt, but government--at least some government--is required, to enable the country to function. The alternative is...free markets? Money out of politics: yes. Tax structures that don't punish the few for the aggrandizement of the 1%, absolutely. But perhaps I'm thinking too "detailed/policy" at 5 feet and not enough "channel the outrage and grow the movement" at 500 feet.

    HelenNPN: "If you MEAN it, if you MEAN 99% then you have to build bridges and coalitions, not act and react in fear to your bretheren that you have disagreements with (very real disagreements with, such as racism and homophobia w/ Tea Party for one example)."

    Yes, I've been waging that battle and working to build bridges over at occupywallst.org's Forum. It's frustrating, sometimes funny, and always interesting. I will say this: it's very easy to say "let's all work together," but there are very very big differences, as you well point out, between many within the 99%. I'm dealing with them hours a day, every day, and it's rough out there, but trying to work with the "other" to find common ground.

    re: Taryn's comment: "Also, even for those concerned, they would never say those people aren't included - just that they have to come on the movement's terms or not at all." Yes. I'm struggling with a TP'er on The Forum who insists that #OWS come to TP, rather than the other way around. To me, the current TP is the far right wing of the republican party. There's no disputing that, even if one wants to be inclusive. The question is: how do you bridge such incredibly vast philosophical differences? I'm trying, but this is going to be a marathon, not a sprint. Still lots of anger and recrimination.

    Will post conversations on my blog in the near future to show what's happening on the front lines of digital discourse...

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